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The coronavirus pandemic peaked in the US 2-3 weeks ago. 

"For some reason, the serious mainstream press has been curiously reluctant to admit this. Pretty much every article about  the status of the pandemic starts with something like, "The US passed another grim milestone today..." or "Drop in new coronavirus cases in U.S. is muddied by reporting and testing snags"  Or sometimes the good news is blurted out quickly and then followed by stern warnings that cases are "spiking" in someplace like Maine or Vermont (where "spike" means they reported 38 new cases in the last week). 

That's why I like this NY TImes article, It just reports the numbers and graphs without inane editorializing. It's not just a few big states with dubious statistical practices. The majority of states are reporting arrival rates that are either clearly declining or plateaued (like Minnesota). And no, it is not just because we are doing less testing (which we are, because we suck). If that were the case, the positivity rate would be rising as testing declines. But it's not... it's falling. 

Any guesses why this is not being reported clearly? Have I misunderstood the data?  Because it sure looks to me like the peak number of new cases was 78,000 on July 25 and it's been all downhill since then.



Date: 2020-08-10 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] quadong
I generally agree with you that numbers are better than adjectives. However, I think there's a good reason not to report that we're past the peak now. It's because that was the second peak, which was twice as high as the first one. A significant factor in getting the second peak was clearly that people responded to the first peak with "all clear now! back to business!".

It's not the second derivative of the number of cases that matters as much as the *number* of cases. That's still very high compared to almost any time since we started.

Date: 2020-08-10 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] quadong
I mean number of new cases per week. Whether it's per 100k doesn't matter as long as we're talking about a fixed population, like the whole country, or Minnesota, and comparing apples to apples. Either way, you see the two-peak structure, and either way, the current rate of people getting infected is still very high, even if it was a little higher two weeks ago.

Date: 2020-08-10 01:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jbru
I've been watching the numbers and have been cautiously hopeful for a couple of weeks. The trick will be to see if we can keep things on a downward slope and then plateau at a manageable number of cases while a vaccine is developed. The push to open schools in some areas is worrisome for that.

Date: 2020-08-10 03:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lydamorehouse
I suspect the New York Times (which I also read, I love that daily graph) is being cautious about declaring anything over too soon. After all, schools are starting back and Sturgis just happened, so I suspect they're waiting to declare this more than a dip until we see what happens after those two major factors.

Date: 2020-08-10 09:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] guppiecat
It's worth noting that the numbers change drastically as soon as the numbers stopped being reported to the CDC and went to DHS instead.

I do not trust the new numbers because they seem to reflect a political reality and not any epidemiology pattern I've seen anywhere.

Date: 2020-08-10 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] maruad
This is exactly what I have been thinking.

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